Comments on: Death by Veganism: A Response to the NYTimes Article (Food Post III) http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/ Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:45:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: From The New York Times: Meat Consumption Is an Environmental Issue « Elizabeth’s Little Blog http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-14487 From The New York Times: Meat Consumption Is an Environmental Issue « Elizabeth’s Little Blog Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:46:18 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-14487 [...] has a spotty record of publishing articles about vegetarianism and the environment, including a painfully misinformed article about veganism last year and an article that tells people how they can save the planet with easy, simple steps [...] [...] has a spotty record of publishing articles about vegetarianism and the environment, including a painfully misinformed article about veganism last year and an article that tells people how they can save the planet with easy, simple steps [...]

]]> By: Scott Wells (Boy in the Bands) http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2176 Scott Wells (Boy in the Bands) Mon, 28 May 2007 15:32:04 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2176 Speaking as a Newspaper Spouse, I think you have to consider a paper's editorial page apart from the rest of the content (and perhaps apart from its web presence) to judge it fairly. But for what it's worth, I trust "the wise masses" and my own judgment over an editorial page any more. Which is why, I suppose, I read so many blogs. Speaking as a Newspaper Spouse, I think you have to consider a paper’s editorial page apart from the rest of the content (and perhaps apart from its web presence) to judge it fairly. But for what it’s worth, I trust “the wise masses” and my own judgment over an editorial page any more. Which is why, I suppose, I read so many blogs.

]]> By: Ms. Theologian http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2174 Ms. Theologian Mon, 28 May 2007 14:48:49 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2174 What a well-reasoned response to a ridiculous opinion! I too tend toward veganism, though I'm not sure I won't ever get there completely. I think it's the right choice for me. And the New York Times is such a rag. We used to subscribe, but it's so awful so regularly. What a well-reasoned response to a ridiculous opinion!

I too tend toward veganism, though I’m not sure I won’t ever get there completely. I think it’s the right choice for me.

And the New York Times is such a rag. We used to subscribe, but it’s so awful so regularly.

]]> By: Lizard Eater http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2161 Lizard Eater Mon, 28 May 2007 02:19:47 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2161 Re: nutrition and vegan/vegetarianism. A friend of mine, vegetarian, refers scornfully to "french fry vegetarians." Which kind of sounds like french-fried vegetarians to me, and makes me giggle. But a good point, nevertheless. Re: nutrition and vegan/vegetarianism. A friend of mine, vegetarian, refers scornfully to “french fry vegetarians.”

Which kind of sounds like french-fried vegetarians to me, and makes me giggle. But a good point, nevertheless.

]]> By: elizabeth199 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2159 elizabeth199 Mon, 28 May 2007 01:45:49 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2159 Hi Jaime. Thanks for the comments. When I say SAD (Standard American diet) I don't mean an omnivorous diet. I mean the actual standard American diet which is just too high in fat and cholesterol and processed foods - just generally not good. I think you can have healthy omnivorous diet, a healthy vegan diet, vegetarian diet, raw diet, macrobiotic diet, and so on. But most people don't seem to eat very healthy. Are you concerned with my implication that generally people don't eat very healthily or did you think I was just referring to a omnivorous-based diet? When you say the overweight epidemic myth, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that it is not the case that too many people in the U.S. are overweight? And that an increasing number of children are getting diabetes due to their eating habits? I don't mean to imply that veganism is the only response to these challenges, but just that if the author of the article was concerned with the health of children, the health risks of a poorly balanced vegan diet don't seem to be a good place to start. As for my lament of the modern media, I didn't actually mean to lament the modern media, although I don't think it is so great. But that is a whole separate post and has really nothing to do with veganism for me.... Hi Jaime. Thanks for the comments. When I say SAD (Standard American diet) I don’t mean an omnivorous diet. I mean the actual standard American diet which is just too high in fat and cholesterol and processed foods – just generally not good. I think you can have healthy omnivorous diet, a healthy vegan diet, vegetarian diet, raw diet, macrobiotic diet, and so on. But most people don’t seem to eat very healthy. Are you concerned with my implication that generally people don’t eat very healthily or did you think I was just referring to a omnivorous-based diet?

When you say the overweight epidemic myth, I’m not sure what you mean. Do you mean that it is not the case that too many people in the U.S. are overweight? And that an increasing number of children are getting diabetes due to their eating habits?

I don’t mean to imply that veganism is the only response to these challenges, but just that if the author of the article was concerned with the health of children, the health risks of a poorly balanced vegan diet don’t seem to be a good place to start.

As for my lament of the modern media, I didn’t actually mean to lament the modern media, although I don’t think it is so great. But that is a whole separate post and has really nothing to do with veganism for me….

]]> By: Jamie Goodwin http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2158 Jamie Goodwin Mon, 28 May 2007 01:35:20 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2158 I was with ya, with ya, with ya... and then the SAD part came up, and the lament of the modern media.. the overweight "epidemic" especially in regards to children. If veganism is for you the right way to move in the world, fantastic, you should live according to your beliefs I applaud that, but to use SAD and the overweight epidemic myths as a reason for it... that I just cannot get on board with. I was with ya, with ya, with ya… and then the SAD part came up, and the lament of the modern media.. the overweight “epidemic” especially in regards to children.

If veganism is for you the right way to move in the world, fantastic, you should live according to your beliefs I applaud that, but to use SAD and the overweight epidemic myths as a reason for it… that I just cannot get on board with.

]]> By: elizabeth199 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2156 elizabeth199 Mon, 28 May 2007 01:20:23 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2156 Thank you. I agree. Just a baaaad article. For such a good paper, they do run regularly print bad articles. I have to refrain from blogging on every bad article. But there was one the other day something like "The Tyranny of a Second Home" about how tough it is on people with second homes - so much work. Oh, poor things. My heart just breaks for them. Anyway. Hope things go better with your church. Sounds like a tough situation. Although the way you blog about it is a little bit funny. I constantly tell people the whole transgender bathroom with a braille sign story. Thank you. I agree. Just a baaaad article. For such a good paper, they do run regularly print bad articles. I have to refrain from blogging on every bad article. But there was one the other day something like “The Tyranny of a Second Home” about how tough it is on people with second homes – so much work. Oh, poor things. My heart just breaks for them.

Anyway. Hope things go better with your church. Sounds like a tough situation. Although the way you blog about it is a little bit funny. I constantly tell people the whole transgender bathroom with a braille sign story.

]]> By: Lizard Eater http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2155 Lizard Eater Mon, 28 May 2007 01:12:26 +0000 http://elizabethslittleblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/27/death-by-veganism-a-reponse-to-the-nytimes-article-food-post-iii/#comment-2155 I'm not a vegan, nor a vegetarian, but this NYT article is just baaaad. A parent who fed their baby cow's milk would probably kill it, too. This reminds me of the story several years ago -- also NYT -- in which a baby starved to death because its drug-addled mother insisted on breastfeeding without following any of the basic parenting rules: check for wet diapers, get adequate well-baby care, weigh the baby. This, however, was twisted into a story about how dangerous breastfeeding is. Ye gods and little fishes. I’m not a vegan, nor a vegetarian, but this NYT article is just baaaad. A parent who fed their baby cow’s milk would probably kill it, too.

This reminds me of the story several years ago — also NYT — in which a baby starved to death because its drug-addled mother insisted on breastfeeding without following any of the basic parenting rules: check for wet diapers, get adequate well-baby care, weigh the baby. This, however, was twisted into a story about how dangerous breastfeeding is.

Ye gods and little fishes.

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